Rachel Caine ([info]rachelcaine) wrote,
@ 2008-04-28 18:36:00
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Current location:The not entirely legitimate Eames Chair
Current mood: bouncy
Current music:"Enjoy the Ride" - Morcheeba
Entry tags:1-star reviews

Taking up John Scalzi's 1-star challenge!
If you haven't read it, John Scalzi posted some one-star reviews from Amazon, and challenged the rest of us to do the same. And I thought, hey! I'VE got 1-star reviews! I CAN SUCK TOO!

I am not immune from sucking, even though I try very hard to write the best books I can. Sometimes, you choke up on the bat, and hit a foul ball to left field, no matter how hard you work at batting practice. And then you have to COWBOY UP and hit the next one hard and straight to center field or the talking heads on ESPN will chew you up and spit you out ... and rerun your failures ... every fifteen minutes ... in slo-mo ....

I forgot: I hate sports metaphors. Let us not speak of this again. So sorry.

Back to the subject, ahem. I've never had an Amazon review removed, and I won't. People are perfectly free to say bad things about the books if they feel the need -- they paid for the right. Or at least, I hope they did. It's really gonna suck for me if they bummed it off of a friend.

Reader reviews are not personal, they're just brutally honest. I try to look at it in a businesslike way, and after I cry hysterically into my pillow, cuddle my teddy bear, scream, fling darts at a printout of the review, and rant to my husband about how unfair life is ... I have some hot cocoa and think hard about what I can learn from this review that will make my work better.

That dart thing, though: very therapeutic. Highly recommended.



Glass Houses
(Okay, I couldn't find any 1-stars, so here are a couple of 2-star excerpts ...)

"I was very excited to get this book, because, though I state otherwise, I love vampires books, and I love young adult novels. Perhaps I'm learning that I should not mix the two, however. The main character was an idiotic "smart-girl". Her incessent need to go to college in the face of death made me dislike her and wish her all the trouble she got."

"While I am sure it would be a better story for a young adult I had a very hard time relating to the characters. I have read other young adult books and not felt so disconnected from the thoughts and emotions of the characters but for whatever reason I just didn't empathize with them enough."

"I didn't realize that this book was for the YA market, but I read it anyway. It was a good read for a YA book and I was ready to give it 4 stars but then I read the ending! It ends on a cliff-hanger!! I HATE books that end on cliff-hangers!! That being the case, it only rates 2 stars."

Rachel: On the whole, I kind of heart these bad reviews. The first one reminds me to make sure Claire remains an aggressive character, and to give her better reasons for her actions. The second reminds me to continue to work hard on character. The third reminds me that using cliffhangers for style will carry a price, and I have to just accept that.

The Dead Girls' Dance
(Once again ... no 1-stars, so here's the 2-star!)

"What was the point of having a teenage girl who does nothing but get rescued be the protagonist of a paranormal novel written in the twenty first century. Her only skill seems to be crying on cue. She won't stay where she could be safe but injects herself into every dangerous situation available so she can be rescued. The only time that she saves any one at all is when she saves the evil vampires and their human sheep. She does this because of some haft baked moral reason. Claire has no survival instinct at all and other then being a nice girl no redeeming values as a main charactor. If you want to read about a girl being rescued read THE PERILS OF PAULINE at least that story is in a time period that fits."

Rachel: A mild mea culpa on this one, 'cause I've often fretted about whether Claire was proactive enough as a main character. But, it's meant to be an ensemble cast, not a star vehicle. I also very deliberately meant for Claire to get more aggressive and self-sufficient through the books, as she adapts and matures, so I needed to have room for her to grow. Do I still worry about this review? Heck yeah. I think he/she has a point, potentially, and I keep it in mind all the time.

Midnight Alley
(2-star review)

"While this series is written for young adults genre, I still found myself engulfed in the world of Morgansville Vamps in the first two books. Sadly, the third in the series didn't meet my expectations ... While I think the storyline created my Rachel Caine is excellent and inventive; this particular book went absolutely no where. Nothing really happened-- it was like a whole lot of side story being squished together in desperate measures to make a book. The characters didn't grow at all, and their relationships didn't change."

Rachel: Well ... I am very thankful that she seemed to genuinely enjoy the series, but I'm sorry I let her down on the third book. What would I have changed? Not really sure. I didn't feel the vibe she did, and I can't quite put my finger on what she was hoping to see. But: respect. Hopefully, she'll like Book 4.

Ill Wind
All right! NOW we get to the 1-stars!

"I just found the whole thing sort of... incomplete. There was too much action, not enough explanation. I wanted more backstory - how did some people get to be Wardens and others not? Does magic run in family lines or something or was it just random? How was it possible that she randomly runs across David, who is actually so crucial to the storyline, but he just sort of happens to be there when it's necessary? Why were some people pulling so hard for her to be a Warden, and then she ends up being afraid of them later when they could probably help her when she's in trouble? I didn't find any explanation for why the characters were doing what they did, other than that it gave the story some action to take place. It annoyed me that I didn't see any real motivation for their behavior."

Rachel: Sometimes I read this one several times, and still don't really understand it. But I get that she wanted more backstory, more talking, more worldbuilding. No lie, it's a tough call to know when to talk and when to jump and run in a story like this. I chose to emphasize action, and it didn't work for her. She will likely enjoy other people's work a lot better, and that's okay. I'm sorry it didn't work for her, but I'm not really sure what I would have changed. I think it's a matter of my style not connecting, instead.

"The best thing about this book is its brevity. The author doesn't bore you with long words or complex plot twists. Then again the characters are shallow and not well developed, which helps make this a quick and forgettable read."

Rachel: Ouch. At least he enjoyed my ... simplistic plot and language? I'm reaching, here. Lessons learned: um, I'm working on that one. Help me out.

"I liked this book as an overall concept. Unfortunately, I sometimes see a reoccurring flaw within in a story, and I can't shake it to the point where it ruins the whole thing for me. In this case, not to be blunt, but has Joanne Baldwin ever met a man she didn't think was gorgeous and wanted to sleep with? I'm far from a prude, but I find it hard to like a character who seems so hard pressed to sleep with any guy she meets, human or otherwise... If you can get past that, it's a nice read."

Rachel: my favorite 1-star EVER! Seriously. I'm sorry, I'm just ... laughing. She's had one lover the entire series, and she's about to marry him in Book 5. To be clear: APPRECIATING MEN DOES NOT MAKE WOMEN SLUTTY. But I still cherish this review, because it makes me laugh every time.



... Okay, this could go on a long, long, LONG time, because damn, I have lots more. But I'll save the rest of the Weather Warden series for another post.

For a funny approach to dealing with bad reviews, check out Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child's Rogues Gallery, in which they celebrate (and cheerfully mock) their detractors.

Back to you, John!

-- Rachel



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[info]barbed_whispers
2008-04-29 01:32 am UTC (link)
Now I want to go write reviews of all the books I love. Hm, I have off this weekend and my house doesn't REALLY need to be cleaned... (Okay, it totally does, but this will be much more fun.)

That dart thing, though: very therapeutic. Highly recommended.

WORD. We used a magnetic dartboard and photos of our enemies in college. The wall had a few dents after (a very stressful) sophomore year, hah.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 01:36 am UTC (Expand)

[info]suricattus
2008-04-29 01:42 am UTC (link)
I'd do it but that would require I go to Amazon.com, and that restraining order is still in effect...

(seriously, I had to make a written promise to someone that I wouldn't go there, because otherwise I'd be checking numbers all the time. I'm not obsessive, I just like metrics)

Most of the 1 star reviews for STAYING DEAD were along the lines of "Yuck this is slow, and there are a lot of typos!" Since I couldn't do a damn thing about the typesetting I try not to let that bother me. The rest, I tried to fix (except the one that complained that the magic system was stupid. That, I couldn't do anything about).

Anyway, I got started writing Buffy novels. I've been scathed by the best!

Edited at 2008-04-29 01:48 am UTC

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 01:49 am UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:33 pm UTC (Expand)
just out of curiosity....
[info]littleblueghost
2008-04-29 01:43 am UTC (link)
Have you come across any reviews yet where you want to correct the reviewer's grammar and spelling? I can't remember what review I was reading, but they had give a one star to the author and had written amazing things, managing to spell almost every word incorrectly.

You really couldn't take the review seriously.

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Re: just out of curiosity.... - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 01:56 am UTC (Expand)
Re: just out of curiosity.... - [info]littleblueghost, 2008-04-29 02:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: just out of curiosity.... - [info]dpeterfreund, 2008-04-30 12:59 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: just out of curiosity.... - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-30 01:27 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]salamet
2008-04-29 01:45 am UTC (link)
you know, the one stars for Ill Wind make me laugh....
Ill Wind was the book that brought me back to Sci Fi/Urban Fantasy as a reader. Before I read it, I kind of had the opinion that SciFi was dead as a genre. (Not counting Neil Gaiman of course, but he takes forever to release new books)
And the funniest thing of all - I bought Ill Wind on the day it came out because of the cover. ::grins::
Seriously, R, you are top of my favorite authors list.
And second favorite on my thirteen year old son's list. (Jim Butcher is first....Goth Huntress is third)
::HUGS::

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[info]txvoodoo
2008-04-29 01:46 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't even think to myself "I've got to work on that", because the bell curve (am watching House!) dictates that there will be someone who dislikes anything you do. And yet they'll keep reading and buying :D

Some people are just incapable of enjoying anything.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:07 am UTC (Expand)

[info]goth_huntress
2008-04-29 01:46 am UTC (link)
One star or Five - at least people are reading them and caring enough to comment. And that's going to be my story when I'm reading my reviews and crying in my pillow too.

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[info]annathepiper
2008-04-29 01:46 am UTC (link)
I laughed mightily at Scalzi's 1-star challenge, and will be keeping it in mind for if I ever sell anything. It totally reminds me of a quote I saw once from the lovely and talented Alan Doyle, responding to reviews calling Great Big Sea's music "regurgitated Celtic": "And we've got a million more where those come from!" ;)

Good on you for joining in!

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[info]mistress_mab
2008-04-29 01:50 am UTC (link)
*cough*

I totally ship Preston/Child.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:12 am UTC (Expand)

[info]music_lover3
2008-04-29 01:54 am UTC (link)
Well, at least people are reading them! Some of those, though, I do not agree with. And don't worry, I LOVE your books and I CAN'T WAIT for the next ones!!!

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:13 am UTC (Expand)

[info]madkestrel
2008-04-29 02:12 am UTC (link)
I wanted to play, but so far I've only got one 2-star, and I had the weirdest feeling that if I did it, someone might decide to "help" me by posting some more disses. And then I'd have to cry and wail and go live in a commune in Siberia.

*grin*

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[info]suibhne
2008-04-29 02:34 am UTC (link)
I'm glad you can take these pretty well. I've thoroughly enjoyed your books ever since the first one was loaned to me by a dear friend. I promptly went out and bought up the series. Like you said elsewhere, there's a reason there are so many books out there - you can't please everyone! The backstory comment particularly struck me because I've felt like you've given us a lot of backstory, but you've done it organically. You never sat down and went "here's everything you need to know" - instead its been revealed as needed through the character interactions. For me that is a much more engaging way to present it. I also tend to enjoy the many gorgeous men ;)

At any rate, keep up the wonderful writing for there are quite a few of us who are loving your work!

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]tapestry01
2008-04-29 02:40 am UTC (link)
Happy (late) birthday!

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]poutyshorty
2008-04-29 02:42 am UTC (link)
I can't believe the 1 star reviews for the WW series... did they even read the same books as the rest of us?

Hey, I've reviewed all 6 Warden books to date on amazon.com, you might have seen my reviews! Windfall was the best one, I totally gushed about that book xD ^_^

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:37 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]tjwritter
2008-04-29 03:05 am UTC (link)
Do you think it's masochistic of me that I can not WAIT to get my first bad review from one of my publshed books?!?!? 'Cause you know, you have to get published to get reviewed...so there's that!!

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:38 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]serafina_zane
2008-04-29 03:11 am UTC (link)
i remember reading a few negative reviews of Glass Houses on Amazon, when i first heard about it,
and sort of shook my head because the general tone was something like
"dude, this book's YA. what's with that? author's other books weren't YA. i don't read a lot of YA. i don't like this book."
to which it's kind of like...yeah. that's...logical.
and then i ended up buying it and thought it was awesome!
which is why i never, ever read amazon reviews, especially not of books i've liked or upcoming sequels to books i liked. because they're often wrong and annoying.

also, that person is crazy because Midnight Alley is my favorite of the three.

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:41 pm UTC (Expand)
Some thoughts....
[info]kassilei
2008-04-29 03:25 am UTC (link)
Okay first... WHO are all these other author's posting on your LJ? I read faster than anyone can publish and am constantly looking for more. It's an addition that is more expensive than smoking and starbucks combined.

Second, while I can understand and even agree with some of the critiques... I love the characters, the action, and the story in both the Weather Wardens and Morganville series'.

I heart your books. I totally heart Agent Pendergast and because of you and your link I now know that Douglas Preston is coming to Phoenix in June. Poisoned Pen rocks!!!

Okay. Seriously though. Who're your friends?

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Re: Some thoughts.... - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 02:46 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Some thoughts.... - [info]madkestrel, 2008-04-29 03:49 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Some thoughts.... - [info]kassilei, 2008-04-29 06:15 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Some thoughts.... - [info]madkestrel, 2008-04-29 09:56 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]karenmiller
2008-04-29 04:29 am UTC (link)
So far, my favourite 1-star review was for my Stargate novel, which is, apparently, 'the worst book ever written'.

It's very hard to take the 1-star reviews seriously, I think, because so often the issues aren't the book's issues at all, but something to do with the reader's agenda. And since we can't control any of that ... deep breath ... moving on. For example, if you haven't written the kind of book they wanted to read -- you're screwed. If you haven't done what they'd do, if they were writing the book, you're screwed. If you can look yourself in the mirror and know, hand on heart, that you wrote the story you needed to write with the best skill you could muster at that time, then you've done your job. You've been an honest craftswoman. And you have nothing to apologise for.

And for the record, I think you rock BIG TIME.

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[info]pith
2008-04-29 04:51 am UTC (link)
I have some hot cocoa and think hard about what I can learn from this review that will make my work better.

Honestly, this is why you rock. Too many authors take reviews too personally. Hell, they take any bit of criticism too personally. A friend of mine politely pointed out some inconsistencies to an author and was bitched out for "being mean" and the author then proceeded to trot out the two excuses which annoy me the most:

a) "My editor should have caught that."
b) "Well, I'm really busy/ writing 3 different series/ whatever"

(I don't get Point A. To me, it's the writer's job to make the manuscript as problem-free as possible. After all, it's the WRITER's name that's on the cover. Shouldn't they have a vested interest in making sure that what's inside is as close to what they want as possible? As for B, feh. If writing is your job, TREAT IT LIKE A JOB. That excuse would never fly at any of the jobs I've had.)

But yes. This is why you're cool. You don't insult people for having opinions contrary to yours, and even if someone's being petty, you try to look to the root of the comment and glean something usable from it. That's a lesson a lot of authors could learn.

(It took a great deal of self-restraint not to list overly sensitive authors here, but I managed.)

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[info]starcat_jewel
2008-04-29 05:06 am UTC (link)
I'm in the middle of Glass Houses right now, and if it stays on course I promise to come over and write you a good review. If it doesn't, I'll just review it in my journal. :-)

But jeezus ghod, I want to kill her parents. Full-ride scholarship to MIT and they make her go to some half-assed community college in Podunk, Texas? What were they THINKING?!!

(edited because I fail at HTML)

Edited at 2008-04-29 05:07 am UTC

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 03:03 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]rynanne
2008-04-29 07:04 am UTC (link)
Grrr, I love, love, love your warden series, well really anything I've read of yours. I don't know why people can't just read and enjoy books for what they are and not have to nit pick everything to bits. I hate it when they do it with movies too.

Love, your books are awesome and I can't wait to read anything else you put out.

*hugs*

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(no subject) - [info]rachelcaine, 2008-04-29 03:05 pm UTC (Expand)
Reviews
[info]ewokallie
2008-04-29 07:17 am UTC (link)
Oh dear! That means you saw my review. Eeep! Keep in mine I will always love ya!

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[info]rustybitch
2008-04-29 10:00 am UTC (link)
I LOVE sane authors.
Also, I have paid for every one of your books I could lay my hands on ;>

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[info]fezabel
2008-04-29 11:37 am UTC (link)
Happy (late) birthday!

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[info]melodywilde
2008-04-29 12:29 pm UTC (link)
I find it hard to like a character who seems so hard pressed to sleep with any guy she meets, human or otherwise

They say that like it's a bad thing. Geez... And yeah, I was sort of mentally scratching my head and thinking, "Okay, she slept with Lewis a while back, but who else has she slept with in the series, other than her guy?" Made me wonder if I'd missed some subtext or something as I was enjoying the books.

In reading this kind of review, I hope you're also remembering the old Different Strokes for Different Folks thing. No matter how well a book is written, or how great a plot/characters/whatever, not everybody is going to like it. And the thing that one person hates will the thing the next person loves. Example: My husband (and a lot of other folks) feels that 1984 is one of the best books ever, and he keeps telling me I should read it. And I've tried, but I can't ever seem to get past page 4. It just doesn't do it for me. (Not even going to hint at invoking the name of that big white whale book...)

{{{hugs}}}

And belated happy birthday!

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[info]married_n_mich
2008-04-29 12:52 pm UTC (link)
Your timing on this is quite amazing. After finishing 'Dead Girls' I went online to Amazon and ordered Midnight Alley. While there I read the reviews for the first two stories in the Morganville series. Had a couple WTF moments. I enjoyed the both of them. And I like Claire.

Maybe your other commenter is right. Maybe its about time I start commenting on books I like as well.

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